Raj_2009
01-14 07:50 PM
Dear Experts,
Kindly take some time to read and pl. help me providing your expert advice which will make me take a clear decision.
I am working in a Company A currently(not yet resigned). My project got over by last december 31st and on bench with Company A now. They will also not process payroll/paycheck for this month as there is no billing for this month. But so far, i have not yet resigned and they are currently looking for a project for me to place me.
Meanwhile, I got a better placement with Company B and did AC21 with transferring my H1B. H1B visa also got approved with Company B. I started working for them for the last 3 days too.
Since my current company(A) might not like me moving out, I did not let them know until i started in the new company B. Current Company A has not laid me off and asked me to go on loss of pay vacation for this month which i did by sending mail. Now I want to resign after having moved to the company B(4 days overlap)
Questions :
1. Will this create any issue/affect me for being on 2 payroll(overlap) although Company A does not process pay for me this month? I am on I485 after I-140 approved stage.
2. Since I do not have any pay(bench) this month and after all, resigning in the same month, would it put me out of status From Jan1 - Jan 12?
3. I am going to India on vacation with New company Paystubs and I797. Will the US consulate in India look into this 12 days overlap/Gap?. I will have W2 for last year. Paystubs with Company A until Dec 31st and for new company only starting from Jan 12(11 days no pay (Jan 1 - 11) ).
4. Pl. let me know which situation I am in(overlap or Gap)?
Pl. advise me how to approach this situation as you might have commented on these kind of issues many times.
Thanks and Regards,
Raj
Dear Experts,
Kindly take some time to read and pl. help me providing your expert advice which will make me take a clear decision.
I am working in a Company A currently(not yet resigned). My project got over by last december 31st and on bench with Company A now. They will also not process payroll/paycheck for this month as there is no billing for this month. But so far, i have not yet resigned and they are currently looking for a project for me to place me.
Meanwhile, I got a better placement with Company B and did AC21 with transferring my H1B. H1B visa also got approved with Company B. I started working for them for the last 3 days too.
Since my current company(A) might not like me moving out, I did not let them know until i started in the new company B. Current Company A has not laid me off and asked me to go on loss of pay vacation for this month which i did by sending mail. Now I want to resign after having moved to the company B(4 days overlap)
Questions :
1. Will this create any issue/affect me for being on 2 payroll(overlap) although Company A does not process pay for me this month? I am on I485 after I-140 approved stage.
2. Since I do not have any pay(bench) this month and after all, resigning in the same month, would it put me out of status From Jan1 - Jan 12?
3. I am going to India on vacation with New company Paystubs and I797. Will the US consulate in India look into this 12 days overlap/Gap?. I will have W2 for last year. Paystubs with Company A until Dec 31st and for new company only starting from Jan 12(11 days no pay (Jan 1 - 11) ).
4. Pl. let me know which situation I am in(overlap or Gap)?
Pl. advise me how to approach this situation as you might have commented on these kind of issues many times.
Thanks and Regards,
Raj
Hi Gurus,
I did file I-140 & I-485 in Eb3 category (Labor substitution) through my old company during 2007 July. My desgination was software engineer with Old company. Now my I-140 is already approved(crossed 180 days) and moved to new big company through AC21 portablity mode during 2009 March. Now I am employed with new company in a senior systems engineer position. This is the typical AC21 case like everyone experienced.
Now My new company is ready to file green card
My Questions are ,
1. Can I file the EB2 LC for this new job in the new company(Senior systems engineer)? Does this qualify for the EB2 category? If it requires the company to have proper job description what is the eligible designtation for EB2 category, other than having BS degree with 5+ years progressive experience?
2. While filing EB2 for the same job that moved in to the new company, can I file AC21 for the EB3(applied from my old company) category as i moved to the new company after 180 days of I-140 approval?
3. Applying for AC21 for EB3 and new EB2 PERM together is valid or any risk involved in this typical case?
Kindly answer these questions.
Thanks,
Raj
Hi Gurus,
I did file I-140 & I-485 in Eb3 category (Labor substitution) through my old company during 2007 July. My desgination was software engineer with Old company. Now my I-140 is already approved(crossed 180 days) and moved to new big company through AC21 portablity mode during 2009 March. Now I am employed with new company in the senior systems engineer position. This is the typical AC21 case like everyone experienced.
Now My new company is ready to file green card
My Questions are ,
1. Can I file the EB2 LC for this new job in the new company(Senior systems engineer)? Does this qualify for the EB2 category? If it requires the company to have proper job description what is the eligible designtation for EB2 category, other than having BS degree with 5+ years progressive experience?
2. While filing EB2 for this new Job in this new company, can I file AC21 for the EB3(applied from my old company) category as i moved to the new company after 180 days of I-140 approval?
3. Applying for AC21 for EB3 and new EB2 PERM together is valid or any risk involved in this typical case?
Kindly answer these questions.
Thanks,
Raj
Kindly take some time to read and pl. help me providing your expert advice which will make me take a clear decision.
I am working in a Company A currently(not yet resigned). My project got over by last december 31st and on bench with Company A now. They will also not process payroll/paycheck for this month as there is no billing for this month. But so far, i have not yet resigned and they are currently looking for a project for me to place me.
Meanwhile, I got a better placement with Company B and did AC21 with transferring my H1B. H1B visa also got approved with Company B. I started working for them for the last 3 days too.
Since my current company(A) might not like me moving out, I did not let them know until i started in the new company B. Current Company A has not laid me off and asked me to go on loss of pay vacation for this month which i did by sending mail. Now I want to resign after having moved to the company B(4 days overlap)
Questions :
1. Will this create any issue/affect me for being on 2 payroll(overlap) although Company A does not process pay for me this month? I am on I485 after I-140 approved stage.
2. Since I do not have any pay(bench) this month and after all, resigning in the same month, would it put me out of status From Jan1 - Jan 12?
3. I am going to India on vacation with New company Paystubs and I797. Will the US consulate in India look into this 12 days overlap/Gap?. I will have W2 for last year. Paystubs with Company A until Dec 31st and for new company only starting from Jan 12(11 days no pay (Jan 1 - 11) ).
4. Pl. let me know which situation I am in(overlap or Gap)?
Pl. advise me how to approach this situation as you might have commented on these kind of issues many times.
Thanks and Regards,
Raj
Dear Experts,
Kindly take some time to read and pl. help me providing your expert advice which will make me take a clear decision.
I am working in a Company A currently(not yet resigned). My project got over by last december 31st and on bench with Company A now. They will also not process payroll/paycheck for this month as there is no billing for this month. But so far, i have not yet resigned and they are currently looking for a project for me to place me.
Meanwhile, I got a better placement with Company B and did AC21 with transferring my H1B. H1B visa also got approved with Company B. I started working for them for the last 3 days too.
Since my current company(A) might not like me moving out, I did not let them know until i started in the new company B. Current Company A has not laid me off and asked me to go on loss of pay vacation for this month which i did by sending mail. Now I want to resign after having moved to the company B(4 days overlap)
Questions :
1. Will this create any issue/affect me for being on 2 payroll(overlap) although Company A does not process pay for me this month? I am on I485 after I-140 approved stage.
2. Since I do not have any pay(bench) this month and after all, resigning in the same month, would it put me out of status From Jan1 - Jan 12?
3. I am going to India on vacation with New company Paystubs and I797. Will the US consulate in India look into this 12 days overlap/Gap?. I will have W2 for last year. Paystubs with Company A until Dec 31st and for new company only starting from Jan 12(11 days no pay (Jan 1 - 11) ).
4. Pl. let me know which situation I am in(overlap or Gap)?
Pl. advise me how to approach this situation as you might have commented on these kind of issues many times.
Thanks and Regards,
Raj
Hi Gurus,
I did file I-140 & I-485 in Eb3 category (Labor substitution) through my old company during 2007 July. My desgination was software engineer with Old company. Now my I-140 is already approved(crossed 180 days) and moved to new big company through AC21 portablity mode during 2009 March. Now I am employed with new company in a senior systems engineer position. This is the typical AC21 case like everyone experienced.
Now My new company is ready to file green card
My Questions are ,
1. Can I file the EB2 LC for this new job in the new company(Senior systems engineer)? Does this qualify for the EB2 category? If it requires the company to have proper job description what is the eligible designtation for EB2 category, other than having BS degree with 5+ years progressive experience?
2. While filing EB2 for the same job that moved in to the new company, can I file AC21 for the EB3(applied from my old company) category as i moved to the new company after 180 days of I-140 approval?
3. Applying for AC21 for EB3 and new EB2 PERM together is valid or any risk involved in this typical case?
Kindly answer these questions.
Thanks,
Raj
Hi Gurus,
I did file I-140 & I-485 in Eb3 category (Labor substitution) through my old company during 2007 July. My desgination was software engineer with Old company. Now my I-140 is already approved(crossed 180 days) and moved to new big company through AC21 portablity mode during 2009 March. Now I am employed with new company in the senior systems engineer position. This is the typical AC21 case like everyone experienced.
Now My new company is ready to file green card
My Questions are ,
1. Can I file the EB2 LC for this new job in the new company(Senior systems engineer)? Does this qualify for the EB2 category? If it requires the company to have proper job description what is the eligible designtation for EB2 category, other than having BS degree with 5+ years progressive experience?
2. While filing EB2 for this new Job in this new company, can I file AC21 for the EB3(applied from my old company) category as i moved to the new company after 180 days of I-140 approval?
3. Applying for AC21 for EB3 and new EB2 PERM together is valid or any risk involved in this typical case?
Kindly answer these questions.
Thanks,
Raj
veni001
11-05 06:55 AM
Can employer revoke 140?? It is not a visa. Ofcourse they will have to revoke an H1b, however, what is the argument that you have that indicates that employer should revoke 140?
140 once approved belongs to the employee and can be revoked only if some fraud has been commited or rather some serious mistake. Otherwise all the employer is supposed to do is to abandon the process further or inother words they will not continue to the next stage (485) if PD were to become current.
This is what I get from watching several discussions on various forums. If you have other information please post.
Employer can withdraw/revoke/notify USCUS he is no longer sponsor for that particular employee for the position, similar to H1B. You better check with good immigration attorney.
140 once approved belongs to the employee and can be revoked only if some fraud has been commited or rather some serious mistake. Otherwise all the employer is supposed to do is to abandon the process further or inother words they will not continue to the next stage (485) if PD were to become current.
This is what I get from watching several discussions on various forums. If you have other information please post.
Employer can withdraw/revoke/notify USCUS he is no longer sponsor for that particular employee for the position, similar to H1B. You better check with good immigration attorney.
chaukas
10-21 12:03 PM
We are in a similar situation . My wife had an EB3 approved I-140 with PD Apr 2004. She got her new EB2 I-140 approved with PD Dec 2006. I have opened a service request ... no update . Sent a letter to Ombudsman. No response yet. I am thinking of pursuing with the local senator.
The lawyer says that USCIS is treating these cases in the general I-140 queue and therefore may take about a yr to resolve.
The lawyer says that USCIS is treating these cases in the general I-140 queue and therefore may take about a yr to resolve.
istrategist
01-26 04:07 AM
EB3-I, PD Nov 2002, 485 filed 2004. Have EAD and also have approved H1 (year 9 -12), but not stamped on passport. With about 7000 people ahead of me, wait time for my GC is estimated to be 2-3 years.
Have been with employer who filed GC for over 10 years now. There is a job opportunity with another employer, but the job description may be different from what was filed on my original GC. Pay will be similar, but travel will substantially reduced, allowing me to be home more.
What should I be careful of if pursuing this new opportunity? Is there anything I should be asking the new employer for related to the job description filing? Should I be asking them to file H1 transfer or use my EAD? Should I ask them to file EB2-I and port my PD over?
Thanks - just want to make sure I am not jeopardizing my 10 year wait for this opportunity.
Have been with employer who filed GC for over 10 years now. There is a job opportunity with another employer, but the job description may be different from what was filed on my original GC. Pay will be similar, but travel will substantially reduced, allowing me to be home more.
What should I be careful of if pursuing this new opportunity? Is there anything I should be asking the new employer for related to the job description filing? Should I be asking them to file H1 transfer or use my EAD? Should I ask them to file EB2-I and port my PD over?
Thanks - just want to make sure I am not jeopardizing my 10 year wait for this opportunity.
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sdrblr
10-11 05:30 PM
Just write to your state DOL and they will take care after that. You might have to provide some proof for them to start investigation. Make sure you have a plan B with regards to work and status if things go south.
feedfront
08-25 05:04 PM
Did you ever had problem in getting VISA or your case was sent for further review because of security reasons? I just want to understand if there were any abnormalities in your any visa approval(s).
All the best. Hope you become green and recyclable (job wise) soon :)
All the best. Hope you become green and recyclable (job wise) soon :)
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KRS
07-14 09:27 AM
My Family came back yesterday via Frankfurt. No issues whatsoever with AP @ Frankfurt.
JunRN
12-17 04:02 PM
Let me answer:
During your application for naturalization, USCIS will look at your old files and see if you work for the new employer (if AC21 is used) after getting the GC.
If you didn't send a Memo, then in the USCIS file, it will show the original petitioner as your employer.
If you send a Memo, then in USCIS file, it will show the new employer using AC21 as your employer.
What is the difference? USCIS will ask for proof on your naturalization application that you work for the employer (that is in their file) right after getting the GC.
If in USCIS file it shows the original petitioner and not the AC21 employer, then you cannot prove that you work for the original employer after getting the GC.
If in USCIS file it shows the AC21 employer, then you can prove that you work for the AC21 employer after getting the GC.
Remember that you must work for the employer for 180 days after getting the GC. The word "employer" means whatever is in USCIS file.
During your application for naturalization, USCIS will look at your old files and see if you work for the new employer (if AC21 is used) after getting the GC.
If you didn't send a Memo, then in the USCIS file, it will show the original petitioner as your employer.
If you send a Memo, then in USCIS file, it will show the new employer using AC21 as your employer.
What is the difference? USCIS will ask for proof on your naturalization application that you work for the employer (that is in their file) right after getting the GC.
If in USCIS file it shows the original petitioner and not the AC21 employer, then you cannot prove that you work for the original employer after getting the GC.
If in USCIS file it shows the AC21 employer, then you can prove that you work for the AC21 employer after getting the GC.
Remember that you must work for the employer for 180 days after getting the GC. The word "employer" means whatever is in USCIS file.
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I_need_GC
10-14 08:57 AM
Renew you AP before Feb 25, 2009. You are usually paroled upto an year from the date of entry.
Yes you can file for AP your self, its as easy as filling out the form.
The stamps having nothing to do with the renewal.
My AP is expiring in Feb 25, 2009. I have some question regarding the renewal of my AP. When I came back this time afterthe vacation, at the airport they stamp my ap saying that it's expiring One June 30, 2009. what does that mean?
When should i have to renew my AP?
How long does it going to take?
Can i do it by myself as my lawyer is charing $1000 every time i'm using her (she charged me legal fee $1000 for my EAD renewal)?
When i apply for the Ap renewal does it have anythign to do with the AP stamping saying expires: june 30, 2009?
Your answer is always appreciated
Thanks Ahead
EB3...ROW
PD May 2006
Yes you can file for AP your self, its as easy as filling out the form.
The stamps having nothing to do with the renewal.
My AP is expiring in Feb 25, 2009. I have some question regarding the renewal of my AP. When I came back this time afterthe vacation, at the airport they stamp my ap saying that it's expiring One June 30, 2009. what does that mean?
When should i have to renew my AP?
How long does it going to take?
Can i do it by myself as my lawyer is charing $1000 every time i'm using her (she charged me legal fee $1000 for my EAD renewal)?
When i apply for the Ap renewal does it have anythign to do with the AP stamping saying expires: june 30, 2009?
Your answer is always appreciated
Thanks Ahead
EB3...ROW
PD May 2006
bijualex29
03-24 12:18 PM
That is my opinion. I may be wrong. I was always under the impression with my 2 cent of brain that 7% of ( Familiy Based+ Emplyment Based ) will be given to each state.
I try to search every where for clarification. I could not find it. However the language is not clear in the law which states that 7% of 140,000 will be alloted to each state during the fiscal year.
Can some one share there light on it please.
I try to search every where for clarification. I could not find it. However the language is not clear in the law which states that 7% of 140,000 will be alloted to each state during the fiscal year.
Can some one share there light on it please.
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chanduv23
11-07 02:21 PM
Well, as a matter of fact "employer is employer" - there is nothing called good or bad. Any employer can be bad during crunch times. Times have changed now and there is more scrutiny over consulting companies these days because they have lot of immigrants on payroll. Look for urself, your family, ur need etcc.. before changing jobs, be it consulting or fulltime. Sometimes FT jobs can be worse as you never know what kinda shit u may get into.
GCAmigo
04-30 01:44 PM
I was shocked as well, when I read about that in the other thread. Thanks for clarifying this Pappu!
shocked to learn that the wait is getting longer! now I am truly SHOCKED!
"Jo poora doob gava, usko thandee nahin laagva re!"
poorly translates to english "Does it get any colder, for one who is already drowned?"
shocked to learn that the wait is getting longer! now I am truly SHOCKED!
"Jo poora doob gava, usko thandee nahin laagva re!"
poorly translates to english "Does it get any colder, for one who is already drowned?"
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Bush
02-21 12:38 PM
S. 9: Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 Introduced 01/04/2007
H.R. 572: Comprehensive Immigration Reform Commission Act of 2007 Introduced 01/18/2007
People,
I dont want to sound pessimistic but do we think its necessary that we have to have some backup plan if the CIR bill gets into the mess it got into last year because of amnesty given to illlegal.
The WORST SUFFERERS will be LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who are at the mercy of this illegal immigrants bill.Do you people think that we need to discuss atleast (the IV core group) the back up strategy if the CIR gets into grid lock as it happened last year.
I think its worth a discussion.People any ideas.?
H.R. 572: Comprehensive Immigration Reform Commission Act of 2007 Introduced 01/18/2007
People,
I dont want to sound pessimistic but do we think its necessary that we have to have some backup plan if the CIR bill gets into the mess it got into last year because of amnesty given to illlegal.
The WORST SUFFERERS will be LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who are at the mercy of this illegal immigrants bill.Do you people think that we need to discuss atleast (the IV core group) the back up strategy if the CIR gets into grid lock as it happened last year.
I think its worth a discussion.People any ideas.?
roseball
02-15 10:51 AM
Recently, my friend was in a very similar situation. His 6th year was expiring Feb 22nd, 2007 and he had a I-797 approval based on an approved I-140 starting Feb 23rd, 2007 to Feb 22, 2010.
He went to India in December' 06 and came back to US sometime in Jan, 07. He got his visa stamped till 2010 at the Delhi embassy.
At the Chicago port of entry, he just showed the officer the new I-797 so he can get an I-94 valid till 2010. Firstly, the officer denied him entry to US since his I-797 didnt start till Feb 23rd, 2007. Then my friend explained him and showed him his old I-797 which was valid till Feb 22nd, 2007. Then the officer cooled off and said he can only allow him until Feb 22nd as he cannot give him an I-94 based on a future dated I-797 approval. My friend tried to explain him and seems like he didnt even listen. But the officer told him that he can extend his I-94 by some procedure by contacting the local/regional USCIS office or by re-entering the country immediately after the current I-94 expiration. He is now planning to re-enter the country again to get a new I-94 valid till 2010.
So, if I were you, if possible, I would only go to Canada after the latest I-797 approval start date so the whole thing is straight forward to get a new I-94 until the latest I-797 approval date. What I am trying to say is that your visa stamping wont be a problem, the issue could be to get a new I-94...Hope this makes sense..
He went to India in December' 06 and came back to US sometime in Jan, 07. He got his visa stamped till 2010 at the Delhi embassy.
At the Chicago port of entry, he just showed the officer the new I-797 so he can get an I-94 valid till 2010. Firstly, the officer denied him entry to US since his I-797 didnt start till Feb 23rd, 2007. Then my friend explained him and showed him his old I-797 which was valid till Feb 22nd, 2007. Then the officer cooled off and said he can only allow him until Feb 22nd as he cannot give him an I-94 based on a future dated I-797 approval. My friend tried to explain him and seems like he didnt even listen. But the officer told him that he can extend his I-94 by some procedure by contacting the local/regional USCIS office or by re-entering the country immediately after the current I-94 expiration. He is now planning to re-enter the country again to get a new I-94 valid till 2010.
So, if I were you, if possible, I would only go to Canada after the latest I-797 approval start date so the whole thing is straight forward to get a new I-94 until the latest I-797 approval date. What I am trying to say is that your visa stamping wont be a problem, the issue could be to get a new I-94...Hope this makes sense..
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swamy
03-25 10:19 AM
even corporate lawyers dont charge more than 750/1000 for individual cases so 2000 is ridiculously high. I would hire a lawyer if only to have a centralized database of my documents in case the govt comes poking around & have them respond ina timely fashion in the legalese thats designed to make no frickin sense to the general public-aliensincluded, but somehow makes the uscis officials climax i guess - btw, there a (confidential?) thread to disclose how much firms are charging
vvpandya
11-06 05:46 PM
I had a LUD on 10/18 and then today the online status says Document mailed to applicant..recvd date at nebraska is 7/2 and recpt date is 9/11
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kanshul
02-01 10:42 AM
Your EB3 date (dec 2004) will not be current for the next 12 years, check the link - when will I get my GC on the front page for this site.
pdakwala
06-11 08:25 PM
Visit this....
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4285
Thanks
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4285
Thanks
pitha
03-28 11:23 PM
I read dailykos.com, a liberal blog site, often. Recently, there has been a spate of postings there that are anti H-1B and anti high tech immigration. One example, from today, is: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/28/82450/4208. I have been posting comments as cacophonix.
dailykos.com is the most powerful and most popular liberal blog. Opinion that gets set there is influential with Democratic legislators. There is significant support there for high-tech immigration, but I think the tide could easily turn.
I need help from fellow IVers in refuting such ridiculous diaries as the one above. Please register and follow developments there, and please post responses when these issues come up.
I can't stress this enough: dailykos has a strict trolling/abuse policy. If you lose your cool and start abusing, you will get banned in a flash. So please be courteous.
I read your response, it was good and I signed up as well. I will post my response refuting anti h1 rhetoric.
On a separate note Logiclife response was spot on and I hope IV will follow in the footsteps of dailykos in dealing with the nonsense mongers.
I will take this opportunity to bring some anti-h1 rhetoric and h1 bashing that happens in our very own IV site!!!!!!!. I don’t want to name the individual who specializes in h1 bashing, so as not to make it a personal attack on that individual. A few days ago I posted a message on one of the threads in IV saying day by day reading some responses on h1 bashing makes me feel like I am on an anti-immigrant website rather than a website fighting for legal eb immigrants.
It feels sad and disheartening to see some members attacking h1 when they themselves are on h1. By attacking h1 they are attacking the very movement and people that IV is trying to help. Sure there are some abuses on h1 but lets not attack h1 like anti immigrants. Let’s fight the people outside who attack h1 and this community but let’s also clean our own house as well and not parrot the same anti h1 rhetoric in IV forum.
dailykos.com is the most powerful and most popular liberal blog. Opinion that gets set there is influential with Democratic legislators. There is significant support there for high-tech immigration, but I think the tide could easily turn.
I need help from fellow IVers in refuting such ridiculous diaries as the one above. Please register and follow developments there, and please post responses when these issues come up.
I can't stress this enough: dailykos has a strict trolling/abuse policy. If you lose your cool and start abusing, you will get banned in a flash. So please be courteous.
I read your response, it was good and I signed up as well. I will post my response refuting anti h1 rhetoric.
On a separate note Logiclife response was spot on and I hope IV will follow in the footsteps of dailykos in dealing with the nonsense mongers.
I will take this opportunity to bring some anti-h1 rhetoric and h1 bashing that happens in our very own IV site!!!!!!!. I don’t want to name the individual who specializes in h1 bashing, so as not to make it a personal attack on that individual. A few days ago I posted a message on one of the threads in IV saying day by day reading some responses on h1 bashing makes me feel like I am on an anti-immigrant website rather than a website fighting for legal eb immigrants.
It feels sad and disheartening to see some members attacking h1 when they themselves are on h1. By attacking h1 they are attacking the very movement and people that IV is trying to help. Sure there are some abuses on h1 but lets not attack h1 like anti immigrants. Let’s fight the people outside who attack h1 and this community but let’s also clean our own house as well and not parrot the same anti h1 rhetoric in IV forum.
chmur
03-23 10:42 PM
H1B extension takes 2 months . You are 4 months out from your trip out of country.
indyanguy
08-23 10:15 PM
I did a concurrent submission of I140 and I485 on July 2nd. As and when the 140 PP comes back, can I get PP done even though I have already sent my application?
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