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  • amdn123
    11-08 11:38 AM
    Hi everyone,
    I am trying to reschedule my H1B appointment as my contact in mumbai failed to deliver the DS-156 and DS-157 to the consulate in time (5 business days prior). However, I can't book a new one till the old one is cancelled and the system won't let me cancel 5 business days or less before the current appointment. Does anyone know what to do? It must have happened to someone before? I really need to get back to the US in 10 days.
    Thanks!!





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  • pappu
    03-06 11:51 AM
    Dear members,

    If you have received letters from USCIS asking for $5K for your FOIA request, Please fax a copy of that letter to Immigration Voice.

    We want to collect those letters and proceed with some big effort on this issue. It is thus important that we have lots of such letters from members.

    Please note the fax number

    Fax : (202) 403-3853

    or email the scanned copy to info at immigrationvoice.org

    Time is short and we need letters in the next couple of days if possible.





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  • aadimanav
    12-27 07:35 PM
    It seems like the December Processing Dates for December 2007 are out, even though my browser is still showing the November version.


    Enjoy!





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  • learning01
    04-12 12:33 PM
    As I had already posted in the news article thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=8552&postcount=225), this is an exhaustive article with a bold and thought provoking headlines. The article can be accessed here - http://www.newsobserver.com/104/story/427793.html

    Many skilled foreigners leaving U.S.
    Exodus rooted in backlog for permanent status

    Karin Rives, Staff Writer

    When the Senate immigration bill fell apart last week, it did more than stymie efforts to deal with illegal immigration.

    It derailed efforts to deal with an equally vexing business concern: a backlog in applications for so-called green cards, the coveted cards that are actually pink or white and that offer proof of lawful permanent residency.

    Many people now wait six years or longer for the card. There are 526,000 applications pending, according to Immigration Voice, an advocacy group that tracks government data.

    Lately, this has prompted an exodus of foreign workers who tired of waiting, to return home or go further afield. With the economies in Asia and elsewhere on the rise, they can easily find work in the native countries or in third nations that are more generous with their visas.

    "You have China, Russia, India -- a lot of countries where you can go and make a lot of money. That's the biggest thing that has changed," said Murali Bashyam, a Raleigh immigration lawyer who helps companies sponsor immigrants. "Before, people were willing to wait it out. Now they can do just as well going back home, and they do."

    Mike Plueddeman said he lost three employees (one a senior programmer with a doctorate) at Durham-based DynPro in the past two years because they tired of waiting for their green cards.

    All three found good jobs in their home countries within a few weeks of leaving Durham, said Plueddeman, the software consultancy's human resource director.

    "We are talking about very well-educated and highly skilled people who have been in the labor force a long time," he said. "You hate losing them."

    This budding brain drain comes as the first American baby boomers retire and projections show a huge need for such professionals in the years ahead. U.S. universities graduate about 70,000 information technology students annually. Many people say that number won't meet the need for a projected 600,000 additional openings for information systems professionals between 2002 and 2012, and the openings made by retirements.

    "We just don't have the pipeline right now," said Joe Freddoso, director of Cisco Systems' Research Triangle Park operations. "We are concerned there's going to be a shortage, and we're already seeing that in some areas."

    Cisco has advertised an opening for a data-security specialist in Atlanta for several months, unable to find the right candidate. Freddoso believes the problem will spread unless the government allows more foreign workers to enter the country, and expedites their residency process.

    However, not everybody believes in the labor shortage that corporations fret about.

    Critics say that proposals to allow more skilled workers into the country would only depress wages and displace American-born workers who have yet to fully recover from the dot-com bust.

    "We should only issue work-related visas if we really need them," said Caroline Espinosa, a spokeswoman with NumbersUSA, a Washington, D.C., group pushing for immigration reduction. "There are 2.5 million native born American workers in the math and computer field who are currently out of work. It begs the question whether we truly need foreign workers."

    She added that the immigration backlog would be aggravated by raising the cap for temporary and permanent visas, which would make it harder for those who deserve to immigrate to do so.

    Waiting since 2003

    Sarath Chandrand, 44, a software consultant from India, moved with his wife and two young daughters from Raleigh to Toronto in December because he couldn't live with more uncertainty. He applied for his green card in early 2003 and expects it will take at least two more years to get it.

    His former employer continues to sponsor his application for permanent residency, hoping that he will eventually return. But Chandrand doesn't know what the future will hold.

    "I miss Raleigh, the weather, the people," he said in a phone interview. "But it's a very difficult decision to make, once you've settled in a country, to move out. You go through a lot of mental strain. Making another move will be difficult."

    Canada won him over because its residency process takes only a year and a half and doesn't require sponsorship from an employer.

    The competition from Canada also worries Plueddeman, who said several of his employees are also applying for residency in both countries. "They'll go with whoever comes first," he said.

    And it's not just India and Canada that beckon. New Zealand and Australia are among nations that actively market themselves to professionals in the United States, with perks such as an easy process to get work visas.

    New Zealand, with a population of 4 million, has received more than 1,900 applications from skilled migrants and their families in the past two years, said Don Badman, the Los Angeles marketing director for that country's immigration agency. Of those, about 17 percent were non-Americans working in the United States.

    Badman's team has hired a public relations agency to get the word out. They have also run ads in West Coast newspapers and attended trade shows, mainly to attract professionals in health care and information technology.

    Dana Hutchison, an operating room nurse from Cedar Mountain south of Asheville, could have joined a hospital in the United States that offers fat sign-on bonuses. Instead, she's in the small town of Tauranga, east of Auckland, working alongside New Zealand nurses and doctors.

    "It would be hard for me to work in the U.S. again," she said. Where she is now, "the working conditions are so fabulous. Everybody is friendly and much less stressed. It's like the U.S. was in the 1960s."

    Limit of 140,000

    Getting a green card was never a quick process. The official limit for employment-based green cards is 140,000 annually.

    And there is a bottleneck of technology professionals from India and China. They hold many, if not most, of all temporary work visas, and many try to convert their work visa to permanent residency, and eventually full citizenship. But under current rules, no single nationality can be allotted more than 7 percent of the green cards.

    In his February economic report, President Bush outlined proposals to overhaul the system for employment-based green cards:

    * Open more slots by exempting spouses and children from the annual limit of 140,000 green cards. Such dependents now make up about half of all green card recipients, because workers sponsored by employers can include their family in the application.

    * Replace the current cap with a "flexible market-based cap" that responds to the need that employers have for foreign workers.

    * Raise the 7 percent limit for nations such as India that have many highly skilled workers.

    After steady lobbying from technology companies, Congress is also paying more attention to the issue. The Senate immigration bill had proposed raising the annual cap for green cards to 290,000.

    Kumar Gupta, a 33-year-old software engineer, has been watching the legislative proposals as he weighs his options. After six years in the United States, he is considering returning to India after learning that the green card he applied for in November 2004 could take another four or five years.

    Being on a temporary work visa means that he cannot leave his job. Nor does he want to buy a home for his family without knowing he will stay in the country.

    "Even if the job market is not as good as here, you can get a very good salary in India," he said. "If I have offers there, I will think of moving."

    Let's utilize this write up and start quoting the link in our personal comments / emails to other news anchors, commentators, blogs etc.
    I thought this deserves it's own thread. Please comment and act.



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  • paskal
    09-10 11:58 AM
    From Siskind's blog on ILW
    http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/09/more-details-on.html

    MORE DETAILS ON SEPTEMBER 18TH RALLY
    Folks - The issue has been raised about whether non-citizens are allowed to participate in rallies. The answer is an emphatic YES! The main restrictions you have in participating in the world's oldest democratic republic is in your ability to vote and your ability to donate to election campaigns. You are most definitely allowed to go to a rally and press your case to the government.

    Immigration Voice has released the following advisory for those attending:

    Travel Advisory for the Sept 18th Rally/Parade



    Dear Member: As you know, the route of the rally on Sept 18th is from Washington Monument to Capitol Hill in downtown Washington DC. Please use the following advisory for travel to and from rally and related events. Everyone must arrive at the Washington Monument at around 9:00 AM on 18th. The march would begin at 11:00 AM and end at 12:30 PM. We will gather on Capitol Hill grounds and stay there from 12:30 thru 2:30 PM.


    Same day travelers: You have to arrive at Washington Monument at 9:00 AM where this event begins and leave the event from Capitol Hill, when it ends at 2:30 PM.



    Arrival Advisory

    For people arriving at the Washington Monument via WMATA Metro Rail/Bus

    There are two close Metro Stations to the Washington Monument Grounds. From your location reach one of the below metro stations. Please use the trip planner on WMATA Home page.


    (1) Smithsonian Metro Station (closest by walk)

    (2) Federal Triangle Metro Station


    Both the stations are 0.4 miles from the monument grounds and are on both Orange & Blue Metro Lines. See the map here on WMATA website and familiarize yourselves before you get on to the train.


    Tip: For those who has not been to DC before, Washington Monument stands tall and can be seen easily. Google Washington Monument and familiarize yourself, if time permits.

    Walking Directions from Smithsonian Metro



    (1) Take the 12th street exit and walk 0.1mile ( North ) towards constitution avenue.

    (2) Make a Left turn on Madison Dr NW and walk 0.1 mile ( West ).

    (3) Arrive at the intersection of 15th and Madison Dr NW to find Washington Monument Grounds.



    Walking Directions from Federal Triangle Metro



    (1) Take the 12th street exit and walk 0.1mile ( South ) towards constitution avenue.

    (2) Make a Right turn on Constituion Ave and walk 0.3 mile ( West)

    (3) Make a Left turn on 15th st and walk 0.1 mile south to find Washington Monument Grounds



    For people arriving at the Washington region airports (DCA/IAD/BWI) early morning Sep 18th

    From Regan National Airport (DCA)



    Regan National Airport is connected by WMATA Metro and is on both Yellow and Blue lines.

    (1) Take the Blue line train (towards Largo Town Center) from DCA to Smithsonian to avoid transfers on the Metro.

    (2) Use Walking directions from Smithsonian above to reach the Washington Monument grounds.



    From Washing Dulles International Airport (IAD)



    (1) Take the 5a bus from IAD at curb 2E to L'Enfant plaza Metro Station.

    (2) Get down at the Rossyln Metro Station and Take the Blue line Metro towards Largo Town Center.

    (3) Get down at Smithsonian Metro and Follow the Walking directions from Smithsonian listed above



    From Baltimore Washington International Airport (BWI)



    (1) Take the B30 Bus from BWI to GreenBelt Metro Station and get down at Green Belt Station.

    (2) Take the Green line towards Branch Ave and get down at L'Enfant plaza Metro Station.

    (3) Take the Blue line towards Franconia/Springfield Metro and get down at the Smithsonian Metro

    (4) Follow walking directions from Smithsonian as listed above.







    For people arriving on buses (ONLY IV Charter Buses) points south and west



    Points South



    (1) On I-395 North/George Mason Memorial Bridge,Stay in the 2 left lanes and follow directions to US-1/Downtown. (approx 1 mile on Route 1)

    (2)Route 1 becomes 14th St SW.

    (3) Make a left on Independence Ave and arrive at the intersection of 15th and Independence Ave.

    (4) Buses will drop off IV members at the intersection of 15th and Independence and will be parked at RFK stadium.



    Points West



    (1) I-66 West becomes Theodore Roosevelt Memorial Bridge and becomes Route 50 East/ Constitution ave NW.

    (2) Make a left on the 15th Street and go 0.5 miles South and arrive at the intersection of Independence ave and 15th street.

    (3) Buses will drop off IV members at the intersection of 15th and Independence and will be parked at RFK stadium.



    Points North and East



    (1) From 295-S/Baltimore Washington Parkway take the US 50W/ Newyork Ave exit and go aprrox 5 miles

    (2) Make a left on to I-395 S and go approx 2 miles

    (3) Take the 12th St SW/Downtown exit and Make a left on Independence Ave with in 0.5 mile

    (4) Arrive at the Independence ave and 15th street interesection in .5 miles. Buses will drop off IV members and will be parked at RFK Stadium



    Departure Advisory


    For people departing via WMATA Metro Rail/Bus



    There are two Metro stations close to the US Capitol West lawn



    (1) Union Station Metro on the Red line. (closer to west lawn by walk)

    (2) Capitol South Metro on the Orange & Blue line.



    Find out on what Metro Line (Blue/Orange/Red/Green/Yellow or Combination) your destination / Metro station is and chose either of the above Metro stations. Simply, Go to wmata website and get your itinerary. Your destination can be a Metro rail stop or some thing that is connected by both rail and bus.



    Walking Directions to Union Station Metro Station



    (1) Head North on 1st St NW towards Constitution ave approx 0.1 mile

    (2) Make Right turn on Louisiana Ave to walk towards columbus circle approx .25 miles

    (3) Cross the Columbus Circle to arrive at Union Station Metro.







    Walking Directions to Capitol South Metro Station



    (1) Head South on 1st st NW towards Independence ave, approx 0.1 mile

    (2) Make Left turn on Independence avenue and walk East approx 0.2 miles

    (3) Make a Right turn on New Jersey avenue and walk South approx 0.1 mile going past Cannon House building and C st SE

    (4) Make a Left turn on D st SE and walk East approx 0.1 mile to arrive at US Capitol South Metro.



    For People departing via IV Charter Buses


    There is no pick up available around the US Capitol. IV Charter buses will be parked at the RFK Stadium which is accessible via METRO. The Metro stop is Armory Stadium which is on the Orange/Blue lines and is the 3rd stop from US Capitol South Metro. (Trains towards New Carrollton/ Largo Town Center)



    (1) Follow the Walking directions to US Capitol South from the US Capitol West lawn as listed above

    (2) Ride the Orange/Blue line to get down at the Armory/Stadium Metro stop.

    (3) Walk towards Lot 7 from the Armory stadium. Street Signs will be available from the Metro station

    (4) Board the bus and your Bus lead/Driver will get you to your destination



    Please make sure that you have the bus lead(s) phone number and there will be a roll call before the bus departs. For exact timings of departure, please talk to your bus lead.





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  • jnraajan
    03-29 04:07 PM
    When I applied in June 07, I had the same issue. They approved it on July 3rd, when according to the revised bulleting, the numbers should have been unavailable. (Remember the Fiasco anyone). I guess they decided to use the old bulletin to give me 1 year extension and then the new bulletin to say, I cannot file for AOS. Nice going..



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  • amitjoey
    07-05 12:54 PM
    Fellow IV fighters, members. I know, it seems like there is always a target for funds and we dont achieve it. Well! that is not true, we set a new target when the first one is achieved.
    Funds, There are more ideas than funds. For every new campaign, plan, we need funds. So it is an ever needed commodity. The reason so many of us are so very aggresive is that we just need more funds, plain and simple.
    Inspite of several hundreds contributing, it is not enough. But we will soon reach a day when we would be okay, (given a lot of us/you, sign up for a recurring contribution).
    Trusting IV with funds is a major stumbling block, but remember IV is a non-profit, so every "naya-paisa" (penny) is accounted for.
    People handling money (core IV) are sincere, honest hardworking people on work-visas, they have much to lose from not being accountable.
    And the most important thing is, please take a look at these hard-working IV CORE PEOPLE, please. Some of them have put thousands of dollars (I mean 5 and ten thousand) into this effort. I am not counting personal expenses, travelling to DC, lost work hours etc.
    So your $100 at the bowling arena wont get you much farther, but contribute it to IV to get your way ahead paved and bull-dozed over.





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  • pappu
    04-27 09:38 AM
    This looks like a hoax to me. Could you quote a credible news story or a link on a enforcement site where there is any advisory?



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  • renupond
    10-09 04:35 PM
    If 1099 is not acceptable with client, what is the the easiest way to go forward, assuming no intent of other employees?

    I think LLC is the only option ( if I dont want to go towards C-Cop ). How long does it take to set that up? What setps? What are the expenses involved other than one time registration fee?





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  • chandra_mb
    07-18 11:37 PM
    I understand that to file 485, all applicants need to be in the US.
    Do the dependents/spouse need to be present in the US to file the EAD later (after we get the 485 receipt) ?



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  • arunmohan
    11-15 04:00 PM
    Same or similar
    Right now i am working in company A as software engineer.
    got offer from company B designation DBA .is this is same /similar job code or different?
    please help





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  • pratikgr
    08-08 08:30 PM
    Based on my limited knowledge and what I have read...you can join some community college during that time to do some short course in order for you to NOT GO OUT Of STATUS and this acts as a bridge. I think during this short course period you would have to go back to F1 and then convert from F1 to H1. The other thing is to go out of the country and re-enter again on H1. These are the only two options coming to my mind. But wait the third and more realistic option would be to find a position in any University related to your profession as then you are out of H1b quota. Good luck and warm regards

    what do you mean by find a position in any university. I think then also you need H1 visa and that can not fill the gap of those 4 months.



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  • tikka
    08-09 11:17 AM
    Check this out, get inspired

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    Make it to the luncheon as well as the rally

    you rock!!





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    08-17 08:47 AM
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  • chanduv23
    10-15 08:02 AM
    You are correct Chandu !.
    My manager suggested me to read this book. Actually he refered this book for one of the middle eastern issues.
    Even though the company is not fully satisfied with Outsource team performance, still they want to stick to it some time beacuse of low budget and cutdown time. Outsourced company has offered 24x7 development which will attract most US companies.
    I think time will come soon that we are going to have GreencardVoice.org and fight for early US citizenship for GC holders!

    People resist changes, in general, many people will be under the impression that their employers will listen to them if they tell them about the harmful effects of outsourcing and prove that it does not work, but they don't realise that management does not look at it that way. All these entrepreneurs are capable and smart and they know what they are doing.

    One thing people must understand that in the modren day world, if anything is constant, that is "change". Yes, "CHANGE IS CONSTANT" and one has to adapt to changes to survive in this present day world.

    Issues arise time to time, and one has to face them and be bold and must do something about it rather than crib about them.

    I was layed off in my 6th year of h1b and thought this is the end of world to me. Everyone around me have all sorts of crap advices like, you must be careful with your manager, you must know how to keep your job, you must learn how to butter your bosses so that you keep job when u r in 6th year of h1b etc...... but some gurus, these are folks in immigration.com who are actually in the IV founding team did gave me a lot of encouragement. I started everything new and found out that nothing is impossible if we work towards it with hard work, faith and perserverence - which is exactly what we are trying to tell people here.

    Thise who realise what needs to be done here, come forward, those who do not realise, are always resistant. This is the time everyone comes forward and show support.

    If you lose your job due to outsourcing, then there is nothing much you can do about it, but to look for a new job and do something about fixing the system





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  • alterego
    12-12 07:03 PM
    My guess is they retrogressed to basically stem demand completely as they felt they had used too many visas too soon, and that is where they decided they need to put the date to extinguish demand. Last month they tried Jan. 2002, but quite clearly that did not have the desired impact. Hence the further move backward.

    This is not too hard to see once you realize you are speaking about 2800 visas for EB2 India, and that means 700 per quarter or about 250-300 primary beneficiaries. When they kept PD at Apr 2004 for the first 3 months, why is it hard to envision that they went through say about 500 primary applicants with such dates, between genuinely old petitions, substitute labor petitions and EB3 to EB2 jumpers, backlog center applicants etc? I mean the truth hurts but this is where it is at. My guess is they have almost certainly used up over 1/2 of the annual allotment for EB2 India, hence they mentioned last month they used up 38% and now they are warning about the possibility of unavailability in coming months preparing us for the inevitable.
    EB3 won't be too far behind in my guesstimate since if they move dates by just a few months this will drive up demand and the fate of that PD will be the same as EB2. 2800 visas inclusive of family members for EB2 and EB3 India is like feeding a hungry lion a chicken wing.:)

    The one possibility that might help us is if once again around the may-june-july time period they accelerate demand by moving EB India to use up visa numbers. If my memory serves me right they did end up using about 15K visas for EB2 India last year. There is no guarantee they will do that again this year however after last years VB fiasco for which they took a lot of heat, they may just let the visas go.
    I see visa recapture as our only hope for temporary relief. Failing which we desperately need administrative fixes like 3yr EADs etc to ease our pain while we wait out the presidential elections next year. Lets hope for the best with the omnibus legislation.



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  • nmdial
    08-04 11:02 AM
    am staying in US for d past 4 yrs ,have a H1 B visa. i want to invite my younger brother and mom for a ONE month visit to US.My mom has already got 10 yrs of visa as she visited dis place in 2008. My brother has just completed his engineering , is 21 yrs of age and has got placed in infosys.His joining date is in December, so would it be easy for him to get d visitors visa as even i want him to have some fun b4 starting off with his work life. Should he carry his offer letter with him and also would it b wise to book d ticket in advance and show them d return ticket as a proof just to tell them tat he will b back in a month and also would like to know the other questions which r expected. Please HELP.Looking forward to your replies

    thanks in advance:)

    I am in a similar boat as I want to invite my sister on a visitor visa for a month here. I think, any document that supports the fact that the visitor will return to India is always helpful.





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  • desi3933
    06-18 04:30 PM
    Under Part 3.

    What should one put for
    1. Nonimmigrant Visa number
    2. Date Visa Issued
    3. Consulate Where Visa was Issued.

    I'm currently on a valid H1 extension with a valid I-94. The visa on passport has expired and I had got an extension within US. Anybody any ideas????

    Mr. EndlessWait -

    You extended your status, not visa. Please get your basics correct.

    1. Nonimmigrant Visa number
    Visa Number for the last issued visa (does not matter if is expired)
    2. Date Visa Issued
    Date of Issue for Visa in #1
    3. Consulate Where Visa was Issued.
    Place of Issue for Visa in #1

    Good Luck


    Please check and verify details with your attorney/lawyer. This is NOT a legal advice.

    ----------------------------------
    Permanent Resident since May 2002





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  • misha
    07-21 02:18 PM
    Misha,

    Even I did not receive my AP ,which I applied last year july 2007.
    Coudn't wait anymore...its kids vacation time.I took infopass ,the IO asked me why I had not contact ed all this time.I explained to her that the constant response whenever I called the 1-800 # was 30days -60 days.

    she made us wait for almost 2 1/2 hours.
    Finally she asked to submit new application ,2 photoes,2 copies of our BCertificates.

    She gave our AP for me and my wife right away.

    So I advice you to take Info pass and check.Ap what I received was in paper.

    Thanks for the advice. I have my infopass appointment on July 23 2008. We will see.





    gc1024
    07-17 07:00 PM
    Thanks man.





    qplearn
    12-20 08:45 PM
    Undocumented amount 33% taken out from monthly compensation then pay roll tax withhold amount went to federal, state tax, social tax and Medicare.

    My point is how can employer deduct tax with is not shown on pay slip.

    What would be take home for 100k base? He should deposit $8333/pm not $5835/pm then pay roll processing department will deduct appropriate amount not he deducts 33% then sends to pay roll.
    I am sorry to hear this, and I hope your friend is able to get out of the mess. I have heard of something similar, although the logistics were slightly different in that case, from a friend. Unfortunately, such things happen.



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